alasse_mirimiel: (Little Bird)
I never knew quite what to think of Eöl and Aredhel. On the one hand, it’s never explicitly said Aredhel wanted to marry Eöl so that’s a clear red flag in my opinion. On the other, it’s really hard for me to imagine Aredhel doing anything against her will. And if you think about it, they are very similar in some ways. Both of them desire freedom, Aredhel from Gondolin and Eöl from Doriath. I think, if Eöl hadn’t been so keen on keeping her from her relatives, they would have been fine. She left because Nan Elmoth had become a cage, exactly like Gondolin had. Eöl should have seen that coming, really. He knew her mind. But it seems he didn’t know her all that much.

“It is not said that Aredhel was wholly unwilling”... there’s too much evasiveness there. I think elves don’t want to admit their race could be capable of rape.

In most cases among the Noldor, first comes the Father-name, and later in life the Mother would give their child a name based on their appearance or character trait. I think it’s interesting how things are reversed here. Aredhel is the one who gives her son his first name, and Eöl is the one who waits and gives Maeglin a name based on a character trait.
alasse_mirimiel: (Little Bird)
What is it about Finrod and Turgon that they were the ones Ulmo chose? That’s my biggest question for this chapter. The only explanation I can come up with is that they didn’t originally desire to go back to Middle Earth (unlike Galadriel, for example). Maybe that meant they would they would give up more readily their new homes when the time came. Though the warning Ulmo gives Turgon seems to suggest he knew Turgon would get more attached to Gondolin than Finrod to Nargothrond. My little headcanon is that Finrod and Turgon used to spend a lot of time on the coast of Alqualondë when they were young, so Ulmo got to know them well, even if they never noticed. 
alasse_mirimiel: (Little Bird)
There are people too self-centred to be good parents, and Fëanor belonged in that group. With his last breath he cursed not only Morgoth, but his sons too. When Fëanor made his oath, there’s no mention of him forcing his sons to take it too. From the narrative, it seems they did so willingly. But in this moment, he’s dying, and asking his sons to follow the oath and avenge his death... can anyone really blame them for saying yes to the last request of their father?
It’s told Fëanor would never leave Mando’s Halls. I wonder if it’d been different had he repented in his last moments, instead of spending them curing Morgoth and dooming his sons.

The coming of Fingolfin’s host to Beleriand will never stop being awesome. Though the Silmarillion would never make a good movie, there are many scenes that would look great on screen, and that is definitely one of them.

In this chapter we learn the Nauglamir was the best thing the Dwarves ever made. According to whom? If someone asked a Dwarf what’s the best thing ever made by a member of their race, would they say it’s the Nauglamir? Could it be there are many wondrous things they’ve created unknown to the Elves?

Glaurung makes his first appearance in this chapter, and it makes me wonder how much influence Morgoth has over his creations. Because it certainly wasn’t Morgoth intention to have Glaurung revealed so early. That was all Glaurung’s fault. Could it be the more intelligent the creation, the more independent from its master? It could be Galurung was just in his rebellious teen phase.

Finally, there’s the dream Finrod and Turgon have. From the text, it seems like they came from Ulmo, but wasn’t Irmo the one associated with dreams and visions? So, how much was Irmo involved there? I like to think of Ulmo going to Irmo and asking for help with this.
alasse_mirimiel: (Little Bird)
Something that really caught my attention is how little the Valar seem to involve themselves when it comes to Men. The only Power they were exposed to at the beginning was Morgoth, and while that was true of the Elves, at least the Valar did something about it when they found out. When Men appeared? No help would come from them until someone pleaded for the First and Second born... That’s incredibly unfair. The exiled Noldor screwed up, and then both Men and the Elves who never went to Valinor had to pay too?

Maybe the Valar were afraid of screwing up like they did with the Noldor. Maybe being around Men would be too much for Men’s bodies, like being in Valinor would be too much for them. Maybe they just decided to stay back because they don’t understand Men at all. In any case, it’s unfair suggest falling victim to Morgoth’s influence is Men’s fault, when the Valar stayed back and let that happen.
alasse_mirimiel: (Little Bird)
Something interesting about Melian is how, despite knowing so much about the events that will happen, she doesn’t get very involved. I thought differently at first, that she had more influence than the Valar, but it’s not so. She limits herself to giving advice without forcing anyone to follow it, much like Gandalf would do in the future. And her barrier, it’s not different from Ulmo’s influence over the Sirion.

My question for this chapter is: Did giving birth to Lúthien diminish Melian in any way? I wonder if she became more bound to her form than the Valar or other Maiar. I think I remember something about her casting her body and going back to Valinor, but was that akin to Gandalf dying? Or more similar to what Arien did? ...Maybe I should wait until I get to that chapter before thinking too hard about this.
alasse_mirimiel: (lotr - Obsession)
“I will diminish, and go into the West, and remain Galadriel”. I wonder at the last bit. It could mean that had she taken the ring and become a Dark Queen, she would have gained a new named, much like Melkor and Sauron. But I think it could have another meaning too.  Maybe Artanis would have taken the ring, and this is her saying she’s not that person anymore, she’s not the one who went into Middle Earth with the desire to rule over realms of her own, the one that followed Fëanor.

Something that’s more evident in this chapter is how there’s a huge difference in the way Elves are portrayed in the Silmarillion compared to what we see in The Lord of the Rings. From fellowship, you get the feeling Elves are this wise immortal beings that can do no wrong. So it’s a little bit of a shock going from there to the Silm, where they are wrong in many occasions, most of the times with catastrophic consequences. It’s like once you read learn First Age stories, it’s impossible to look at Elves the same way. This made me think of Bilbo as we see in Many Meetings. He doesn’t seem to view Elves with the wonder the other hobbits show. In a way, he almost speaks to them as if they were equals. Yes, maybe it’s a combination of his age, personality and experiences, or maybe he’s become immune after being around them for so long. But what if, after learning so much Elven history, just like us, he can’t see them the same way? That’s my new little headcanon.
alasse_mirimiel: (lotr - Fëanorians)
I already said I don’t see why Finwë was chosen as king of the Noldor. In this chapter, is even more obvious why I doubt Finwë’s aptitude as king. What I find objectionable is not just his obvious favour of Fëanor over the rest of his family, but also over the rest of the Noldor he’s supposed to be ruling. He leaves everything to go with Fëanor on exile. Anyone else thinks he’s overreacting? 12 years is nothing to an elf, and what the Valar asked of Fëanor wasn’t unreasonable, considering Fëanor threatened his half-brother. If anything, I think the punishment was pretty mild. I wonder what the reaction of the other Noldor was to being abandoned by their king. That’d make an interesting fic, I think.

Someone else I see as a bad leader is Fëanor. Unlike Finwë, I do understand why people would follow him. I think under other circumstances, he’d be a great leader. However, he’s too self-involved for that.  I don’t think he cares about it at all... he won’t accept anyone but Finwë as his king, true, but I don’t see him as someone who cares about being king. I think all he cares about is having the freedom to do what he wants. So I think his real problem with Fingolfin being considered the heir of Finwë isn’t that Fëanor wants to lead the Noldor, but the implication that Finwë considers Fingolfin a better choice. It’d mean Fingolfin is better than Fëanor in Finwë’s eyes.
alasse_mirimiel: (lotr - Obsession)
What I love about this bit is how hinsight is not 20/20 (we see this in Túrin’s story too). For every tragic event there isn’t one clear incident that could be call the catalyst, but a lot of different ones that contribute to the end result (the end result being despair, death and generally bad times for all involved). 
alasse_mirimiel: (lotr - Fëanorians)
Was the extreme love of Finwë for Fëanor a bad thing? Is everything bad that happened Finwë’s fault for marrying again? Something I love about the way The Silmarillion is written is how it leaves the answers to questions like these ambiguous. Go not to the text for answers, for it will say both yes and no.

Something else that caught my attention was the mention to Fëanor not listening to Nerdanel anymore. Not listening to advice, not seeking counsel, are common features among good characters turned bad.The opposite is considered a sign of wisdom. Think of Fëanor, Túrin, Saruman... think of that moment Aulë decided to make the dwarves without consulting even his wife. I think this is what makes Maedhros such an interesting character to me, because he’s an exception.

I
’m leaving this with my biggest question: did Manwë think Melkor’s pride was so great there was no way Melkor would be able to apologise if he wasn’t sorry?
alasse_mirimiel: (Little Bird)
Anyone else doesn’t get why Ingwë was chosen as High King of the Eldar? I don’t know, for me it’s weird that the High King happens to be Manwë’s favourite guy...Then again, it’s difficult to see why Finwë was chosen King of the Noldor from what we see of him in the Silm.
alasse_mirimiel: (Little Bird)
Something I find interesting about Oromë finding the Quendi is... well, that it's Oromë who finds them. If Manwë can see everything and Varda can hear everything, if water brings Ulmo news from all over the place, it’s odd neither was the first to notice. The only explanation I can think of is that the Quendi were shielded from the Valar by Ilúvatar’s power. Could it be Ilúvatar kept them from the Valar to allow the Elves to develop their own culture without any influence from the Valar? That's the question that keeps coming to mind.
alasse_mirimiel: (Gintama - Being intellectual or somethin)
I thought it was odd how Eru waited so long to confront Aulë about the creation of the Dwarves. Surely Eru must have known what Aulë was doing; was it necessary to wait until the Dwarves were finished?  It got me thinking if maybe this was a test to see if Aulë could go in the same direction as Melkor. It wasn’t until Aulë told Eru his intention was to have pupils he could share his knowledge with that Eru “adopted” the Dwarves. Maybe Eru had to wait until the Dwarves were sentient to test Aulë’s intent, could it be that Eru doesn’t have an insight into the mind of the Valar? If Aulë’s answer had implied in any way that he wanted to have dominion over a race, something Melkor sought, would the other Valar been alerted?

Another thing I found interesting is the mention of the Dwarves’ own beliefs. If The Silmarillion is a compilation of tales written by the Elves, it means that knowledge came from the Dwarves. It could be a sign of the time Elves and Dwarves weren’t enemies. More than that, it implies friendship between the races, because the Dwarves wouldn’t have shared that knowledge with anyone. On the other hand, it could be that the Dwarves were offended by the Elves’ assumption of what happened to them after they died, and they shared a bit of their culture to stop the Elves from thinking something so insulting.

And finally, I just love the relationship between Aulë and Yavanna. I love that Aulë only confied in her, how Yavanna didn’t break that trust when she went to Manwë (also how funny was Manwë’s reply to her idea of the Ents?). The ending was fantastic, though it made me wonder if it’s possible that Aulë doesn’t consider Yavanna’s creations as creations. It seems to me that for Aulë, a tree contains the material to make creations, but it’s not really a creation in its own right…

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